So thats why Sheil didn't come to bed???
Cool, glad to hear your gonna be OK
Thunder
i want to thank all of you for your advice, well wishes, support, love, private messages, late night phone calls, etc.
i didn't mean to alarm any of you.
when i wrote my post, i felt i was asking a valid question.
So thats why Sheil didn't come to bed???
Cool, glad to hear your gonna be OK
Thunder
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i would be interested in hearing a few.
for the life of me (pun intended) i can't think of any good ones.. robyn
(((((Robdar)))))
I used to get so pessimistic about life in general that I couldn't think of any "good" reasons to go on. Mind you I have plenty, Sheila, my kids, my grand daughter, my friends here. Even with all that "good" stuff, situations arise that make me wonder. You just get tired.
We all have a responsibility to our loved ones to be there for them. When that doesn't seem like enough and the warm fuzzies of family and friends seems empty, then fall back on your riteous indignation. Get pissed, it is your duty to outlive your enemies. Don't give them the satisfaction of seeing your demise. Fight for all your worth and expose them for what they are.
Sheila is going to try calling you today. Maybe we can get together for coffee again.
Thunder
i am tired of the double standard that dubs have.
my parents have very little to do with me since i have been df'd.
but they still want my kids to visit.
It's always the good kid that gets overlooked. My siblings were out drinking, smoking, and screwing around all the time. I tried to be a "good" little dub and now I'm the black sheep of the family. Hoorah for me!
I spent too much time tring to earn the approval of my parents. I became a much happier person when I gave up on that. I have found that when you appear not to care wether you are liked or not, people flock to you.
As far as letting them see the kids, as long as they're not pumping their little heads full of WTS crap, children grow up best having the widest possible array of loving caring adults in their lives.
Thunder
when you encounter a jw who doesnt know you, do you tell them you are an ex?
or pretend otherwise?.
last night we were understaffed at work so had to call in an agency worker, i had to leave her in charge of 4 adults with autism while i did the rounds on call, every so often i called back to make sure she was coping ok. we got on well, chatted away and then at about 5am she starts witnessing to me...i end up coming home with 5 magazines..lol, she "placed" them with me.. i didnt want to tell her i was an exjw as it would have ruined the working relationship and made her feel uncomfortable.
Its hard not to want to tear them a new arse. I have had many "situations" where I have been called out to do work only to find that the home owners were JWs. I didn't blow off the work though, I figured what money I took from them wouldn't go to the pedophile defense funds.
I did have on two ocasions the home owner recognize me from the hall. They were more concerned with getting whatever repairs they needed done than driving the unbeliever from their home. They probably figured that if my moral character wouldn't allow mw to remain associated with the org, it wouldn;t allow me to screw them on the work. Boy were they wrong!
Pity and disgust are the emotions I feel at those times. I' m not going to go door to door trying to save their asses though. I had to find my way out. I figure them seeing me happy as can be, is evidence enough for them.
Thunder
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it think it was paul who said in the bible that people are happier single than married.
do you share paul's point of view?
our niece, irene, who posts here as inky, sent me an email.
her 27 year old son is getting married in two weeks, and she posted a few days ago about how he didn't invite her to his wedding.. she told me i can post it as she doesn't want to read it again.. "dear mom.
i've needed to write this letter to you for some time now.
(((((Inky)))))
Look at it this way. He isn't rejecting you but rather embracing them. They won't allow him to do both. Had he truly wanted nothing to do with you he would not have wasted the time to write. His admition that he still loves you is the part of his heart that has yet to be completely assimilated.
As the facts of the WTS corruption and evil are brought to light he may see the truth of it. Don't give up hope of having a more active role inhis life in the future.
Thunder
based upon your knowledge and experience, what would you say is "the greatest story ever told"?
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it think it was paul who said in the bible that people are happier single than married.
do you share paul's point of view?
Blackout,
I think it is so cool that we can be diametricaly opposite on this matter and still be able to converse civily. I see other threads where opinions are different and the thread deterirates to the point of name calling and plain meanness. Perhaps others might take notice of how two people can be agree to dissagree and keep things friendly. No flame war here.
I really appreciate your viewpoints and look forward to reading more of your posts.
I don't mean to be presumptious, but I would like to call you a friend.
Your friend,
Thunder
imagine a marriage that has lasted 16 years.
there are no children.
one spouse was a jw for 20 years, the other for 34. the former, male, has discovered that the jw religion is not the truth, and decides to leave.
Sad situation.
Seems they can't find any common ground on which to build. Unless they both decide to turn theri full attentions to eachother, I fear their chances are slim to none. I think Kingpawn is right though, if they don't do something constructive soon they may never have a chance to fall in love again.
Thunder